Shemale Porn / TS's are the only things that turns me on.

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  1. overfloater

    overfloater New Member

    So my situation is that I started watching porn around 14 and quickly escalated to shemale porn and thats pretty much what I have watched since then, I am 27 now. I lost my virginity to a ts and have only ever had TS's until this year where I TRIED to have sex with a genetic girl, but couldn't keep hard. This was after about 36 days of no MO or porn. I have always wanted to have sex with women but I never had a girlfriend , or was never able to ever get a girl, shy, no game, etc...

    The problem now is that I stopped watching shemale porn but literally nothing but a ts turns me on. If I see a picture of a TS or an IDEA of a Ts in situation I can instantly get hard 110%. It sucks cause I feel like there is no way my brain is gonna change that arousal, but at the same time I LOVE woman and I do have sexual thoughts but they just don't do that much at all. I am worried that I am at a point of no return with this shit and that I totally fucked up my life since I had no idea when I was young, it was a new fun thing. On the plus side, I see the TS/shemale stuff as totally sexual nothing more but with women I am always wanting more. It doesn't help at all that I have almost no experience with girls so that causes some anxiety. Before this I had a few ED situations with TS's and DE but that got fixed after I stopped watching porn.

    I have read other peoples shemale porn stories, but I am just worried since I started so young and escalated almost at the beginning of me discovering porn that my brain has changed and there is no way to get it back to normal. Of course I have not gone more than 45 days without a relapse, so I can't say I have tried passing 90 days. Any thoughts I really appreciate.

    Thanks!
     
  2. adratep

    adratep Guest

    I can relate in a way although I'm not into TS porn.

    I also love girls and would love to connect with one but I don't feel any sexual urges towards them. Combine that with serious ED and you have one fucked up human being.

    It's sad how much more normal our lives would be if porn never had existed.

    I am afraid of the same thing.

    Best of luck!
     
  3. Metal

    Metal Get busy living or get busy dying

    Just accept you're bisexual.

    There is no way in hell that you're straight.
     
  4. hogus

    hogus New Member

    Oh man when will you get it. Your experience with porn, whilst deep and profound I'm sure, is NOT COMPLETE. Unless you can 100% say that everything that could possibly happen relating to porn definitely happened to you, you can't say that HOCD doesn't exist because you personally didn't experience it.

    That goes for everyone else too. It doesn't matter that you didn't experience it or can't imagine it but other people have quit porn and found their tastes have reset to straight because they were never genuinely bi or gay.
     
  5. Metal

    Metal Get busy living or get busy dying

    When will you get how laughable it is to suggest that porn is capable of causing one to go out their front door to meet with men to have sex with them and give that same person the desire to dress up as a woman.

    A normal straight person can watch 10,000 hours worth of porn and it would never get to the stage where it crosses his mind to seek out tranny porn or meet men. There is enough straight porn and weird fetishes out there that it would never be needed.

    And then if they did come across any gay porn accidentally they'd be repulsed.

    It's absolutely tin hat crazy to suggest porn is able to make men seem attractive to a straight person.

    The op lost his v-card to a tranny and you want to pretend porn made him do that? Aswell as causing him to get rock hard at the sight of cock? And this person is meant to be straight?
     
  6. Stiffenthesinews

    Stiffenthesinews when no one else ever cared

    Lol, I think this post turned me a little bit gay. The idea of being able to get rock hard at the sight of a cock intrigued me a little. ;D Quite a way with words you got there.

    I consider myself 100% straight and men don't really interest me at all. I don't even really have guy friends because I can't be arsed paying attention to much of what they say because there's no prospect of sex with them.

    However, in my confused teenage years I got fed up of straight porn and started masturbating to gay porn for a while before getting back into straight porn. And comparatively recently there was a time I got bored of regular boring straight porn and saught shemale on female porn. The thought of a pretty TS with a penis turned me on. But it's possible that lesbian porn was no longer enough for me and I needed to see the closest thing possible to two women having PIV sex.

    Anyway, Love sometimes doesn't care about sexual preference. OP seems more into ts's than women and this has consistently been the case. Maybe he should accept the possibility this is what he's into.
     
  7. stretcher

    stretcher New Member

    Jesus, it doesn't matter if he's a bisexual who identifies as bi or a bisexual who identifies as straight. You guys are wasting your time debating a semantic.

    To the op: start talking to women. Start being around them, soaking up the vibe, hearing their voices and interacting with them. See them irl. I'm not attracted to naked women online either, they're a dime a dozen. But hotties at my gym or at the water park, that's different. Activates a completely different part of your brain.

    That's all you can do. Lay off the shemale porn, try to redirect your fantasies away from them when they come up, and expose yourself towomen more. You're never going to get rid of the shemale thing, I'm afraid, but you can at least reduce its power.
     
  8. Metal

    Metal Get busy living or get busy dying

    Well fantasising and masturbating to it, there seems to be a grey area.

    But taking the next step and acting out on it, I'm sorry once you copulate with the same sex, then unless it was forced, there is no way that person is straight.

    At what point does it take for a person to be considered bi or gay?

    The person watches gay/shemale porn (check)

    The person crosses dresses (check)

    The person then gives and receives oral sex with a male (check)

    The person receives anal (check)

    Now if all those things doesn't make a person bent as a hanger, then what the hell does?

    Some people argue that the person has to accept and like the fact they're gay in order to be classified as one. This I disagree with as there is still so much stigmatization surrounding gays that it's preferable for some to repress their urges and convince themselves that it's something else causing them to be gay.

    Plus we now live in a blame culture where no one wants to take responsibility for their actions and place the fault on someone or something elses shoulders.

    Sadly gary wilson has come up with the perfect pretext to excuse the person of taking any responsibility for their sexuality and it's been blindly accepted as fact even thought it makes no sense to the erudite.
     
  9. alldonewiththat

    alldonewiththat New Member

    Metal, you're ignoring the psychological component of arousal. In the Kinsey studies, they found that male arousal can depend much more on psychological factors than physical factors.

    Is OP into the male bodies of the transexuals, or are they into the IDEA of transexuals?

    I have no idea. Based on their porn history, it's very plausible that it is the idea that turns them on.

    There's nothing wrong with being bi. But unless OP is aroused by men who aren't transexuals, I wouldn't say they are bi. You're taking very strong opinions on a situation where you don't have much information.
     
  10. hogus

    hogus New Member

    What you have said completely goes against what the community have reported and there's simply no arguing against that when really, it's the best evidence we have right now. It's not like it's just one person, it's a LOT of people.
     
  11. Gary Wilson

    Gary Wilson Active Member

    Could you expand on this? The statement makes no sense to me.

    If you are suggesting that adolescent sexuality is impervious to conditioning you couldn't be more wrong. If that were the case PIED wouldn't exist, and yet it does.

    Scientist can readily alter sexuality in adolescent mammals- even cause male rats to prefer same-sex partners. They have also conditioned rats to mate with female rats that smell like death (a smell rats hate).

    Internet porn is a new stimulus, which is now applied during a critical window of sexual development - adolescence. The purpose of adolescence is to rewire to one's sexual environment. If your entire sexual environment is pixels, that is what you wire up to.

    I suggest you watch this and explore the references below the video - http://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescent-brain-meets-highspeed-internet-porn

    This review of the sexual-conditioning literature is by one of the top scientists who studies sexual conditioning (he happens to be gay) Who, What, Where, When (and Maybe Even Why)? How the Experience of Sexual Reward Connects Sexual Desire, Preference, and Performance (2012) http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/Pfaus_Sexual_Reward_2012.pdf

    Your opinion doesn't match reality, with many people escalating to porn that doesn't match their original tastes. This escalation reverses through rebooting with original sexual tastes coming to the fore.
     
  12. SwimAddict

    SwimAddict New Member

    Like the OP I got into TS and gay porn, although I'm 100% certain I'm straight. Its basically a horror story for your dick, scares it into getting hard. After you've seen 3000 lame romantic comedies (straight porn, even fetish porn) that are all about the same D or Ds in girls hole(s), you need something to shock you to attention.

    Eventually I had seen enough of the TS porn that it got to be boring too and moved on to something else, think it might have been 3P. Its all about finding disgusting shit to get off to because of desensitization. Seeing guys kiss in public disgusts me, but I got off to gay porn for a while too.

    Porn is one fucked up bitch, it really messes with our heads in ways we can't even imagine yet don't underestimate it
     
  13. Metal

    Metal Get busy living or get busy dying

    You've presented a theory that it isn't the person sexuality that is responsible for them being into gay and shemale, but simply desensitisation.

    Desensitisation doesn't cause one to be attractive to the opposite sex.

    I've been desensitised and explored many different types of porn as have many here, but never did it cross into transgender or gay porn because that doesn't and cannot appeal to my sexual orientation.
     
  14. hogus

    hogus New Member

    One one hand you view sexuality as plastic, you (at least for the purposes of this discussion) accept that sexual tastes can be molded.
    But then you view it as set - ie you are either gay or bi or straight and that can't be changed. Why is that a magic exception? Yeah there are other variables like genetics but most people don't escalate to gay/shemale porn anyway due to their genetics and environmental factors other than porn.

    If you accept you can escalate to gay/shemale porn then why are they suddenly gay if they act it out? People act out what they see in porn all the time.
     
  15. Gary Wilson

    Gary Wilson Active Member

    Read my above post as I expanded on it. If you watch the video, you will see that desensitization may or may not be a part of the process. Desensitization can drive the search for more stimulation, but it is not the mechanism that causes an alteration in sexual tastes. It is sensitization that causes sexual conditioning, which manifests as bigger blast of dopamine for a specific stimulus. Sensitization is triggered by deltafosB, and normally occurs during adolescence, This is how all mammals wire to sexual cues.

    This same process occurs during addiction. Sensitization and sexual conditioning involve the same circuits and mechanisms. In other words, addiction hijacks the mechanisms in place to wire you up to get excited by boobs (See - Natural and Drug Rewards Act on Common Neural Plasticity Mechanisms with ΔFosB as a Key Mediator (2013) http://yourbrainonporn.com/natural-and-drug-rewards-act-common-neural-plasticity-mechanisms-%CE%B4fosb-key-mediator-2013).

    To understand the science behind this phenomenon, See these two articles (and the citations) covering adolescent sexual conditioning:
    Are Sexual Tastes Immutable? http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/are-sexual-tastes-immutable
    First Sex: Just The Science Please http://yourbrainonporn.com/first-sex-just-science-please

    As you will see in the animal experiments, adolescent sexuality can be easily conditioned, even to stimuli that is normally aversive. Same mechanism exists in humans.

    If waht you say is true, and it is impossible for Internet porn use to sexual conditioning an adolescent, than:
    1) PIED does not exist
    2) Escalation to new genres never occurs
    3) Finding porn more exciting than real partners cannot happen

    However, all the above do occur, and must involve sensitization (deltafosb), and thus sexual conditioning. Your argument is exactly the same as all those who claim PIED is a myth - "it didn't happen to me, so it cannot happen." Such doubters must explain how so many men reverse ED by removing a single variable. They cannot. You too must explain why individuals reverse sexual tastes by removing a single variable. Can you?



    It is important to also understand that anxiety increases sexual arousal, and we suspect this is part of the initial appeal of "forbidden" genres. Study - Anxiety increases sexual arousal (1983) http://yourbrainonporn.com/anxiety-increases-sexual-arousal-1983-0

    In this Google Talk by neuroscientist Ogi Ogas, the co-author of the controversial "A Billion Wicked Thoughts", the popularity of shemale porn is explored. The attraction shemale porn is all about a psecific set sexual cues, and NOT sexual orientation - it's only straight men that watch shemale porn.
    http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/google-talk-neuroscientist-why-we-certain-types-porn-including-shemale
     
  16. overfloater

    overfloater New Member

    Metal It's not that simple. If I was gay I would know, I am 100% sure without a doubt that I am straight and the thought of it has never crossed my mind either. If this was me being in denial it would make it so much easier I would just need to accept it.

    If just the act of having sex with a TS makes a person gay then I am gay/bi, but that doesn't mean anything in my opinion. I don't have any sexual feelings towards men and with ts's I view them as girls, it doesn't even occur me to see them as anything but female. I know it's hard to grasp and seems impossible but honestly if you are in a similar situation you would understand.

    The lust for the TS is just that, a purely sexual desire. I have no real feelings at all, never could see myself with a ts, which is messed up as I use them and see them for only that purpose.

    It's total desensitization from regular desires/instincts and has kind of become a hypnotic unconscious part of my brain. I am not going to give up because I know I can get over it. I'm just worried it's so damn ingrained in my brain that it's either gonna take very long or not work at all.
     
  17. Metal,

    Why do you feel the need to come across so opinionated and aggressive? Your tone is harsh and dogmatic. This forum should be about sharing and understanding or at least keeping a decent and civil tone if you don't agree.

    What is so strange about heterosexual men being sexually excited by the sight of cock? This has been going on since time immemorial in both our Western culture and tribal Cultures (such as the Trobriands) around the world. It has been going on in public schools and prisons. Do you think that males who have sex with other males under these circumstances have to be unequivocally gay or bisexual? Do you not see that under certain circumstances human sexuality may take forms it would not take under other circumstances?

    You seem to think that because you believe something to be true, it has to be so.

    There have been gay guys on this very forum who have stated that tranny-porn is a heterosexual thing, not something gay men are usually into. Also, gay guys on this forum ask guys who have HOCD to think of a person they would want to smooch with, hold hands with, have a romantic dinner with, stare into each other's eyes - if that person is a girl, then you are not gay, even if you have had sexual encounters with other men.
     
  18. Wafflebot

    Wafflebot New Member

    Who thinks Metal is actually a repressed homosexual?
     
  19. Stiffenthesinews

    Stiffenthesinews when no one else ever cared

    Couple of things. I usually avoid this subject, and I've never been all that sure why. Perhaps I was ashamed of having been into this sort of thing, but I never let it get out of hand. I realise now though that I do miss TS porn a bit. I'm not going to waste much more time thinking about it though. I have better things to do. But in spite of what I said about your sexual tastes seeming to be irreversible...

    If you truly believe love is something you could only experience with a woman, then choose love. Nothing else matters

    Your desire for TS porn/sex will diminish if you don't allow yourself to think about it.
     
  20. Focus

    Focus New Member

    There is no way in hell that you know what you are talking about. By your logic, all porn tates must be in tune with a person's real sexual orientation and there should be no egodystonic porn addiction. Or are you saying that it is not true for BDSM, animal porn, hentai tentacles, cuckold and etc. but it only applies for gay/shemale porn? WTF are you saying, really?

    By the way, most porn is gay in some way.

    P.S. I registered to this forum for the sole purpose of asking you this question and make you question yourself about whether have any issues with being gay. I cannot think of any other explanaiton other than you having an issue.

    edit:

    I do.
     
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