It's porn, just porn. Rant (fairly long)

Discussion in 'Erectile Dysfunction / Delayed Ejaculation' started by alienship, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. alienship

    alienship Member

    There seems to be a lot of people speaking about alternative ways to recover but all you need is to stop porn. If you have DE/PE, it's because of porn. Kegels won't change a thing, avoiding porn will fix everything that it caused. I'm pretty sure Gabe didn't take any magic pills of do a workout of penis strengthening.

    By all means, compliment no PMO with meditation and a healthy diet but I'm reading a lot of posts about practising on flesh lights and doing kegels.

    If you're using a flesh light and your recovering you're just lying to yourself, likewise if you're edging to try and improve your PE. Btw, if you orgasm within 1-2 mins that's not PE, that's pretty normal. Also prostitutes, that's equivalent to a Virtual reality porn scene, horrible for someone with PMO, you're wiring sex as something without feelings that costs money. The same with dating apps. Another way to feed your porn habit by pretending you want to 'connect' when really what you're doing is swiping for the prettiest person and getting a jolt of dopamine when they match you.

    Just stop porn, stop anything that causes an exciting buzz similar to porn, stop touching your dick, you do not need to orgasm or release, I think my longest was 3 months. The urges were mental, not physical but your mind will try to trick you.

    It's not tight or loose muscles, it's not lack of omega 3, it's not lack of gym, it's porn.

    Yay, something positive. Laying off porn and touching your dick and you will be a new man. I've been PMO free for around 3 years now (maybe more) rarely ever get morning wood (yes, you heard it, no morning wood) and had a couple of relapses which haven't set me back (they really sneak up on you). Lack of erection is no longer an anxiety, remembering to stop fantasising is a big problem BUT as long as you quit porn and masturbating you'll be fine.


    And yes, stop the masturbating. Why? Because you're wired masturbation and porn as one action, they're not separate and I don't think for us they will ever be separate for us, anyone still masturbating is just lying to themselves.

    And the meme. Everything is because of porn, you stop the porn you stop the DE/PE/ED/XYZ it's the source of everything

    P.s, quitting porn works guys, don't get caught up on time frames, keep your semen locked up like it's in limited supply, stop testing yourself and become a better you along the way. Forget you have a penis and wonderful things will naturally happen.

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  2. Mik2

    Mik2 Aka NwaltRed

    Lol, I'm not gonna touch this one. Yall's owe me one :p
     
  3. hope2overcome

    hope2overcome No Love, No Sex

    Great Post Alienship. My whole journal is trying to find cures to fight against the temptations of porn. But, really the best way to end those cravings is simply to white knuckle it. Just don't do it.
     
  4. nyloin

    nyloin New Member

    Hahaha nice meme. I do agree that the longterm PMO lifestyle has many longterm effects on sexual, physical, and mental health. It's crazy how many guys who watch porn blame it on other things like diet or low T and are totally unaware the self-destruction they're causing. I remember when using porn back in high school I lost interest in girls both physically and emotionally, then it's gotten bad over the years. Still used porn despite these consequences, and that caused more problems like no motivation to do anything, constant fatigue, distancing myself socially, and the worst in no enjoyment in anything whatsoever. I also had to stimulate myself to the most hardcore videos in order to get an errection. That's when I knew it became a big problem. I've been trying to quit for god knows how long and still failing. I've got so much work to cure the damages caused by PMO
     
  5. alienship

    alienship Member

    Hey man. This is it, it gets much easier but the temptation is also razor thin even after all these years. I find myself watching a youtube video (for example) because the thumbnail drew me in of some pretty lady, clicking on that thumbnail is my sub-consious ancestral behavior, I get absolutely nothing out of it but..I..just..had..to.
     
  6. alienship

    alienship Member

    Hey Nyloin, the great news is all the hard work comes from simply quitting porn, unlike say alcohol where multiple things would be required including possibly un-reversible liver damage. Watch some motivational videos, the actor Terri Crews was addicted to porn and has several youtube videos on recovery I highly recommend them and it's great to see someone of that nature coming out with such an addiction.

    Wipe your HD clean.

    And we all have that same post PMO feeling "I wish I could rewind 20 mins and not do this" think of that every time you have an urge and think how you will feel 20 mins from that point. It's hard but it's a fact that you will regret it.
     
  7. xburnerphonex

    xburnerphonex Member

    The magic pill that Gabe, Noah and most other successful rebooters have had was extended contact to a patient and emotionally connected significant other to ensure rewiring, be it with or without O. (You emphasize this in one of your other posts, but I feel the need to emphasize it here again.) That is the magic ingredient that I feel most severe cases on here lack. Abstaining for an indefinite amount of time works for some, but some have to actively reinforce their libido/mojo via kissing/cuddling/attempts at intercourse, depending on the stages of the reboot.
    Just waiting for it to come back is simply frustrating - this is speaking as someone who has been out of flatline for about a week and then fell back into it without relapse.
     
  8. xburnerphonex

    xburnerphonex Member

    I appreciate the encouragement.

    I try not to dwell on it too much; I had a 100+ days streak, but relapsed to MO because of constant semen leakage and the fact that reboots are random, so I thought I would re-roll the dice for a different set of withdrawal; the relapse did make the leakage subside eventually, but I'm back to feeling dead down there.

    On my previous streak I came out of flatline, but overexerted my libido through fantasy. On top of that a relationship that I was hoping to rewire within just didn't work out which exasterbated my withdrawal-related depression and sent me back to flatline.

    I have no problem with abstaining from PMO/MO/O, I have no cravings, but I would also like to point my body in the right direction, so I don't end up stuck in flatline. I'm just gonna keep up NoFap and scour all corners for a platonic girlfriend I feel an emotional connection towards to fool around with and then move on to more serious matters - sadly, this isn't just something one can order online.

    Anyway, I appreciate the time you took to respond to my post.
     
  9. alienship

    alienship Member

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    Deleted my post as was going to do a more detailed one later but that was the jist of it.

    You've done awesome to get 100 days, sounds like porn days are well behind you, now it's just letting the body do its thing and dealing with the mental aspects.

    I'd say to not even bother looking for a relationship of any type, just let it happen otherwise they'll be a lot of unwanted pressure and expectations. My plan was to go a full year without anything but naturally I met different people. In fact right now, I'm not looking and would love to go several months with no contact just to further heal and add the finishing touches to my recovery.

    I don't think sex sets you back but I do feel that there's always that aspect of porn involved in the beginning.

    The body is wonderful for adapting and I don't believe that by not rewiring or releasing you stay in some
    Kind of limbo. For now, embrace no porn and no sexual contact, resetting your dopamine levels associated with sex, starting fresh if you will.
     
  10. shattered

    shattered Member

    This is profound. I had ED problems before porn, and was seemingly addicted to masturbating.
     
  11. alienship

    alienship Member

    Interesting, did you use magazines or
    Imagination etc? I found that my usage or porn pretty much started with my usage of excessive masturbation. From them on the two were pretty much one thing.
     
  12. xburnerphonex

    xburnerphonex Member

    Again, I appreciate the response. It's always nice to hear from someone who's already recovered more or less.

    Maybe I am one of those cases that just bounces back to normal after a period of time, but I just feel like I shouldn't postpone rewiring to the very end, until the cycle of flatlines ends, MW reappears or whatever. Granted, by the time I find a partner in my current situation, I'll probably have a significant abstinence streak under my belt. I just want someone to kiss/cuddle with, yet it seems nigh-impossible to secure currently.
     
  13. shattered

    shattered Member

    Yes, I used magazines and the underwear section of catalogues.
     
  14. alienship

    alienship Member

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with your position right now, in fact better to be alone recovering then on tinder re-wiring your brain to one night stands. :D

    I'm currently struggling a bit, I don't have a partner but want to 'fool around'

    Damn, you made me remember the underwear sections. Maybe it was much earlier than I thought. Although this is 'normal' for most boys at a young age I think we were always meant to make up the percentages of porn addicts, just like there will always be drug and gambling addicts, something in our child hood maybe.

    The first website I opened when I first got internet (dial-up) was a porn site, ha, and that isn't even a joke. Down hill from there.

    We all ate sweets as kids but I had to eat the whole bag. I see porn as something similar.
     

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