Does Nofap owe its origins to Gary's Porn Experiment video?

Discussion in 'Pornography Addiction' started by John_McWallace, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Was the 90 day NF challenge taken from the 90 day porn free experiment?
     
  2. WilliamOneAndDone

    WilliamOneAndDone Active Member

    No.

    Gary does not advocate "challenges". Helps to know our history.

    Challenges are a hang over from Reddit. They come from a time before porn addiction was understood to actually exist. They come from a time when porn addiction was very young, because High Speed Internet Porn was very young, which was because "the internet" was very young. Hard for a lot of younger people to truly grasp, but the internet is, still, a relatively new invention. We invented the internet around 1990, it was widespread and in use by around 1998, and around 2009-2011, we saw the widespread use of High Speed Internet, followed, inevitably (because we all love a bad idea) by High Speed Internet Porn. The widespread dissemination and availability of HSIP lead to the widespread condition we have named "porn addiction". It is not porn addiction. No one has ever been addicted to porn. Rather, in ignorance, a lot of people use porn to achieve an addictive neurological reaction, which crudely, but accurately, can be described as a "dopamine high" or "dopamine rush." It is that high/rush that is addictive, not porn itself. Nature figured out a long time ago that rewarding sexual thoughts with a dopamine rush leads to reproduction, via sex (point being, in nature, naturally, that brain mechanism is a positive, useful, and good thing--but the internet is not something that occurs naturally). When we invented HSIP we invented a new way to have never ending sexual thoughts, thus a never ending dopamine rush, thus the addiction. Getting a dopamine rush via sexual thoughts was always available to us, us being humanity, but it was only after we invented HSIP that we invented a means to have them all day, every day, for years. Yeah! Not so much.

    Challenges were invented before the neurological basis for the addiction were understood, but, at a time when people were first understanding that internet porn was becoming a problem. They just did not understand why.

    Gary Wilson's solution, which is very simple, and for a porn addict seemingly impossible, is: just quit, just quit watching porn. For a porn addict who understands the brain stimulation aspect of that, it translates to: quit using porn to give yourself a dopamine high; quit giving yourself a dopamine high. It is the dopamine high that is addictive, not the porn we use to trigger it (because porn triggers sexual thoughts).

    The 90 days, aka the hard 90, 90 days hard mode, is an exercise, a first step, in following Gary's advice to "just quit." I find the challenges a distraction because they pose as something positive when in fact they do not address the long term solution, which is simply quitting watching porn, quitting using porn to ride a dopamine high.

    So, to answer your question, the "NF challenge" is obsolete. It is not fapping you are giving up, it is using porn to trigger a neurological response you are giving up, and to successfully overcome this, your mindset must be you are giving it up for life. So, be real, and understand that while you will miss that dopamine high, because it feels good, getting it really never did anything positive for you, in your life, but, rather, distracts from living. It is a drug you take to make the passing of time less onerous. Solution: give it up and find something in life that makes you feel alive. I gave it up and substituted sex, drugs, and alcohol. OK, NO, I DID NOT TO THAT, just seeing if you are still reading. That was an addict's joke, gallows humor. There is only one thing worse than getting addicted and that is getting unaddicted. You better develop a sense of humor, if you are going to deal with the pain of withdrawals. You can quit feeling sorry for yourself. You got here by consistently practicing to hone that dopamine high; you did it to yourself, as we all did. Now you are going to have to consistently train your brain to live without it. Just that simple. That is the solution to the problem. Hope it helps.

    Much love.

    Will I AM.
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2018
  3. Alexander

    Alexander Administrator Staff Member

    Not at all. When I started the forum, I never heard of him or his site. Not to diminish from his important work at all.
     

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