Could this be the answer to my problem?

Discussion in 'Ages 40+' started by ananoman, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    flaltlined and sleeping a lot. today marked the 3rd day this week that I've slept for almost 10 hours. My body feels so tired and spent.
     
  2. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    Woke up feeling better. I ran across a book this weekend called "The BrainFog Fix" by Dr Mike Dow which basically says that we've screwed our hormonal balances of Serotonin Dopamine and Cortisol by our poor diets, poor sleep, and lack of exercise. I've been trying really hard and would say I'm good on the sleep and exercise and I'm pretty good on the diet but he says we need to cut out the sugar and flour from out diets.... that would be tough for me. I'm going to make some changes in that direction and see if it helps.

    On a good note I had sex with the wife this morning and am taking the 40New30 approach and did not O. It has now been almost 2 weeks since I last O'd
     
  3. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    I am very sensitive to sugar and starch myself, good luck with the low O method, it works well for me.
     
  4. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    Viewing damage. 40New30 you had a post on your thread that pretty much echos what I'm battling. I too am starving myself of stimulants and craving dopamine. I'm back off the caffeine pre workout drinks, I've beaten the PMO thing. I'm avoiding edging. So now it come down to the peaking/viewing that I succumb to. It definitely sets me back. Gotta beat this.
     
  5. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    I definitely made my best progress when I wasn't intentionally viewing anything, as well as pushing all sexual thoughts out of my mind. I believe that things like this keep the circuit from completely unwiring and thus keep us stuck with some of the bad brain changes. I'm very much improved, but I'm not done, to reach the finish line I think I need a few more months of nothing 2D. 2D keeps the circuit opened.
     
  6. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    I think I have found the cause of my tiredness over the past month. I finally went in for a blood test to check my numbers for my Hormone Replacement Therapy and it appears that my Estradiol levels were way out of whack- it was too low. low estradiol levels can cause symptoms including severe fatigue. I'm now adjusting my meds accordingly.
     
  7. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    Good to hear, hormones are critical.
     
  8. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    looks like the Estradiol levels were really causing my lethargy as a tweak to my HRT protocol has got me feeling so much better after 6 days!! Had sex with the wife last night and O'd for the first time in 3 weeks. We shall see how I hold up
     
  9. 40New30

    40New30 Keep going

    sweet man!
     
  10. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    Two consecutive nights of hot sex with orgasm. Gotta be careful not to overdo it
     
  11. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    wife has really been in the mood of late. But 3 O's in 4 nights has really set me back again. I'm lethargic and anxious- lacking energy. It looks like I need to space the O's out when I have sex with the wife. I know with the last one- she really wanted me to. I guess she really wanted to know that I was truly enjoying the experience.
     
  12. YellowMinion

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    I don't know which it is, but the other day I took Korean (Panax) Ginseng, Maca, and Horny Goat Weed Complex at the same time. I barely lasted 10 minutes before having an O, and normally I can go pretty much forever. It was like I was 15 years old or something. It's possible that the O wasn't related to those things, but it seemed like I was much more of a hair-trigger after taking them. (Too much apparently.)
    I know Estridol turned out to be the culprit, but you could try taking B-12 and folic acid or a good B complex vitamin to help with energy. Vitamin D3 can reduce the aromatase enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen so make sure you're not overdoing D3 as it may be counterproductive (by how much I don't really know.)

    Apologies if this was covered. I didn't read every page of the thread. I'm glad you're making progress.
     
  13. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    Was your estradiol too high?
     
  14. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    I'm back to post and confess the last month has been a struggle of off again on again viewing of porn substitutes and porn. I know that my tiredness, anxiety, poor sleep are all caused by my lack of self control. I am renewing my efforts now to be strong.
     
  15. WRAT

    WRAT Active Member

    Welcome back.
     
  16. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    checking back in on day 13. It was easy to stay strong as I went on a weeklong missions trip in a very poor part of the world. I was so busy and exhausted I didn't even have time to let my mind wander. Like the saying goes- "An idle mind is the playground of the devil."
     
  17. a short guy

    a short guy Active Member

    Reminds me of a 3 week bicycle tour I once took many years ago, no PMO, too busy pedaling and too exhausted. The night I got home I continued where I left off.
     
  18. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    So I got back from my missions trip and managed to last only a few days until I fell back into my old routines again. Still battling but never getting out of the rut.

    But lots of good news-

    First I'm not as brain fogged as I used to be. I have honed in on many factors- sleep, caffeine intake, my hormonal balance in relation to hormone replacement therapy (and hematocrit levels as a side effect). These are ALL factors in addition to PMO.

    Second- I have no performance issues. In fact, I'm performing like a 20 year old. I think the Hormone Replacement Therapy has a bit to do with this

    Finally, the other good news is that I truly have no desire to PMO... I'm almost at 1100 days!!!- I do have a desire to look at porn substitutes though, and what I'm doing may not be full blown edging, but I am allowing myself to "linger and enjoy" too much. That is my battle now.
     
  19. 40New30

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    I'm pretty brain fogged right now, but I'm thinking a few weeks of clean living should get be back on track. Can I ask how you got on HRT? I'm thinking when I get to older middle age with with go on HRT just for better health.
     
  20. ananoman

    ananoman Active Member

    My HRT journey is a story unto itself. Like I've mentioned at the top of my thread I've been dealing with fatigue/tiredness/brain fog issues my whole life. Here is my post from a HRT thread

    I'm an otherwise healthy 52 year old male, 172 lbs, 5-10, 32 inch waist, work out regularly with a mix of lifting weights, P90X, Insanity, and biking. I eat a healthy diet.

    So I've spent pretty much my whole life being tired. Sure I would have my good days but I'd have too many days of being run down and fatigued. I started looking for answers in my late 20's. Did exhaustive workups with multiple docs. I've had multiple diagnoses and attempted treatments from Lyme disease, to Epstein Barr, to depression, to allergies. I've been put on treatments that all did nothing. I've also been regularly worked up for chronic fatigue, Thyroid panels, been checks for sleep apnea, restless leg syndrome. I've explored and tried them all. In the end most docs just shrug their shoulders and say "hey, your tired because you work too hard- its normal"

    I've been a fitness fanatic since high school, and as the years went by I got smarter about my diet, in hopes that my diet would improve my energy. But it really didn't.

    Around 6 years ago the fatigue began to get worse. I used to sometime crash after dinner but I started noticing it happening earlier . The brain fog was also lasting for longer periods of time, and the libido was dropping. I did some online research and came up with 2 potential diagnoses- Adrenal Fatigue, and Low T. Since Adrenal Fatigue is a controversial diagnosis with a cure that would involve a drastic change in my life- namely the need to quit my job and not work, I decided to explore the Low T.

    at the age of 48 I was tested for T levels for the first time in my life. The first test came back at 308 (the normal range is 300-1200. I basically had the testosterone level of an 80 year old) my GP did a followup test and it came in at 400. At this point it looked like I might have a problem so I asked for a referral to an Uro. He ran his own test and the T came in at 455. He said my problem wasn't low T and left it at that.

    I decided to clean up my life even more. I ate even cleaner, and eliminated the porn and masturbation that some contend could cause issues such as brain fog and fatigue. I did start to feel better. My T at my physical last year was 445. I figured I was going to just keep getting better and better. But after hitting a peak in energy last August I started to get worse.

    My fatigue gradually got worse, I would crash earlier and earlier in the day, started to feel lifeless. My blood test in April showed my free T at 280. a month later I went to another endo who ran his own blood test and it came in at 290. He said I was fine and my problems weren't due to low T. I decided to try TongKat Ali, and thought maybe it was helping. I was feeling pretty good, but then in July I started really going downhill. The fatigue was getting so bad it was starting to effect my work. Some nights I would go straight to bed after dinner even though I was getting decent sleep, and some evenings I didn't even feel well enough to drive.

    I found a Urology practice here in the DC area that treated Low T so I made an appt. got the blood test and the T was 310. The Urologist is diagnosed me with Low T and put me on a trial 60 day run of Testim gel to see how I respond. I did that for a few months but found the management of the gel to be a real hassle- you have to be careful not to come in direct skin to skin contact with anyone when the gel is newly applied, plus it stuck to all my clothes. My Testosterone levels also were not all that great on the gel. I was able to get up to 5-600. As i got further into HRT I realized that this urologist really didn't know much. He refused to put my on Hcg to help maintain my natural LH FSH pathways in case I wanted to stop the HRT. So I started looking around to make a switch.

    I ended up going with an online medical outfit and began injections. Since I am a dentist it is no big deal for me to self inject. So now I self administer Testosterone, Hcg, and Arimidex to balance my levels. The HRT has certainly helped- I no longer feel as tired and fatigued as I used to- but it also has not been the magic elixir that many make it out to be. I do worry about the long term health consequences of being on Hrt and there are a bunch of side issues you have to stay on top of such as your Hematocrit levels- so who knows what I'll end up doing in the future.

    For now though I'm staying this course.
     

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